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Post by Destiny Knight on Sept 14, 2007 19:06:28 GMT -4
Hardcore is like the John Cena/Jeff Hardy of match types...
They suck and are way too over rated for what they actually are....
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Post by King Vegas on Sept 14, 2007 20:14:00 GMT -4
Hardcore is like the John Cena/Jeff Hardy of match types... They suck and are way too over rated for what they actually are.... The woman has spoken. Listen Angel bitches...I MEAN...Our dear sweet employers. ;D
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Post by lc on Sept 14, 2007 21:08:04 GMT -4
*Agrees with Dez*
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Post by Angel Storm on Sept 14, 2007 21:11:23 GMT -4
That looks awesome (the vid.)
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Post by Corona on Sept 14, 2007 21:50:42 GMT -4
at first I wasn't to sure but after that vid I would love to see a Hardcore division here in APW
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Post by abc on Sept 14, 2007 22:04:08 GMT -4
Yeah me too, that would be friggen sweet! ;D
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Post by Destiny Knight on Sept 14, 2007 23:06:47 GMT -4
NO!
Hardcore is the SCUM of wrestling!
DOWN WITH HARDCORE!
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Post by lc on Sept 14, 2007 23:19:32 GMT -4
Hardcore is a pretty braindead battle. Those people are morons.
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Post by Destiny Knight on Sept 15, 2007 1:59:39 GMT -4
Pfft
Hardcore Matches = BORING
The constant reversal fests with weapons and total one sidedness of them just makes them USELESS.
And I highly doubt that 08 will even THINK about making it better since they only care about people who play the games not sim them... so when it comes down to it... Pitfight would be the way to go or just not to do the 'side division'
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Post by ~Travis Tyler~ on Sept 15, 2007 2:08:04 GMT -4
The match XV and with Cinder and Nate turned out just fine, and though it was TLC....you still had weapons to beat your opponent senseless with, so theres not really a problem with it....
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Post by "Ironman" Michael Taylor on Sept 15, 2007 2:16:37 GMT -4
I don't know how many simmed Hardcore matches you've seen, but they are quite entertaining. You need the right sliders for them and the staff here at APW has managed to come up with some of the best on the net.
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Post by Destiny Knight on Sept 15, 2007 2:19:45 GMT -4
Hardcore match division in APW would be a bad move in my opinion.
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Post by cin on Sept 15, 2007 2:33:52 GMT -4
Ok, honestly, you need to stop watchin 06 hardcore matches, because, yes those do suck more than what a $2 whore could possibly do. 07 improved the hardcore matches(along with the AI, which is the most important note). Yes, ladder matches are still hit or miss. MITB matches are very, very nice from the ones I've seen.
So, while you can go on and say a Hardcore Division would be a bad move, let me ask you this.
Have you seen the hardcore matches simmed with the 08 ai?
If you're answer is no, then you really have no basis to go on by saying that a Hardcore Division would be a bad move. The only real basis you have to stand on is the previous ones.
I've paid some pretty close attention to the more important aspects, like the AI, the stamina, etc. And each year, they seem to improve, which means THQ is beginning to become a lot better at designing how the game should work.
Now, there would have to be testing done by management before any final decisions would be made. Obviously, if the hardcore matches are teh suxxors, then they won't use them. However, from what I have seen(and those video's are user controlled, lets not forget that), it appears to me that the hardcore matches will be much, MUCH better in 08.
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Post by Casey Angel on Sept 16, 2007 10:47:59 GMT -4
Poll is reopened. Keep it on topic. This is for a Hardcore Division. There are polls open for you to speak your mind on other divisions. If you wish to do so, go to them and do it.
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Post by pornstar on Sept 17, 2007 9:52:10 GMT -4
*Still has a firm no. I've seen about two interesting hardcore matches this year. Besides, we don't need more titles watering down the importance of the main belts, since we've seen the Nationwide Title ignored quite a few times.
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Post by heaven on Sept 17, 2007 9:55:57 GMT -4
We'll we've recently changed the style of Hardcore matches in apw. Rather then the actual match type we just use TLC with pins anywhere (well i do anyways) Creates a much more entertaining match...especially those 6 person TLC battle royals ;D
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Post by pornstar on Sept 17, 2007 11:08:25 GMT -4
I've simmed one before, that was an awesome match.
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Post by cin on Sept 17, 2007 11:29:44 GMT -4
Jason, you have to understands that Hardcore matches in 08 will be much different than 07.
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Post by pornstar on Sept 17, 2007 11:33:26 GMT -4
Only tentative at this point. We thought a lot of things would be better in 07 from 06... *Cough* CAW Mode *Cough*
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Post by cin on Sept 17, 2007 11:40:57 GMT -4
True, but look at the Ai from 06 and 07. There's a big change. Yes, the caw mode ended up being worse.
But, if I had to choose between poor caw mode/great ai vs great caw mode/poor ai, I'd go with the first. That's just me though.
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